Seacoast Residents Cite Possible Water Damage from Sand Project

Even before the project ended in October, Seacoast Drive residents have complained that new sand has caused sea water to seep through garages, sidewalks and elsewhere. SANDAG may return to IB to even out sand that have caused water to pool.

Sand replenishment in eight areas along San Diego’s coastline came to a close this week, but residents in the first city to receive sand are complaining that the project has caused water to seep under their homes, into carports and through sidewalks.

“I’ve lived on this little piece of dirt for 25 years and that’s never happened, and I’ve been through huge storms when the water’s coming down the streets or over the rocks,” said Dave Recker, who lives near the corner of Seacoast Drive and Cortez Avenue.

“That’s just never ever, ever happened, so it’s just kind of created a big swimming pool, and that’s right where the problems are going underneath.”

Recker, his wife Stephanie, and their neighbors said water settled into an inlet a few feet deep on the beach near their homes last week after a strong swell and waves came to the region.

The knee-deep pond formed near their home last Saturday and extended along at least six property lines, they told Patch.

By Tuesday, water was coming out of the sidewalks, planters around the property and parking garage, they said.

The 2012 SANDAG Regional Sand Project started in Imperial Beach in August and came to a close in early October.

SANDAG crews may return to Imperial Beach next week to level the grade of sand along 3,000 feet of shoreline, said David Hicks with the planning agency.

Dave Recker says he thinks the inlet was caused by pipes that were on the beach to pump the sand to the shore. He’s an avid surfer and likes the new sand, but hopes water that may have gone below the foundation of his property has not caused any damage. 

“I’m hoping they’re going to regrade that and fill that hole up ’cause there are at least five or six big winter storms every year and that one we had last week was just a medium swell,” he said.”If they don’t fix that, it’s going to get way worse.

“I think if they do a really good job of correcting it, there shouldn’t be a problem. I do appreciate the new sand down here. I don’t think they realize what happened.”

David Hicks with SANDAG said the uneven area in the sand was caused by high tides and wave action.

“In replenishing the beach with additional sand, one of our goals was to protect homes from winter storm surges like the ones we experienced recently,” Hicks said Friday via email. “The shallow ponding is usually temporary. The water eventually seeps back into the ocean and the ground.”

Monitoring of the area began in October, Hicks said, around when SANDAG began to receive complaints.

“We are now getting cost estimates for additional grading to fill in the lower areas next to the rocks and to slope the beach to minimize ponding against the rock wall that exists in front of the homes,” he said.

Mary Doyle lives next to the Reckers at 1356 Seacoast Dr. and said she first noticed pooling about a month ago.

“I’ve lived there six years through worse storms and high tides, and that’s never happened before,” she said. “It had nowhere to drain, and so gradually it’s been going under our homes and seeping under the sidewalks.”

Imperial Beach was just the first part of the sand replenishment project, Doyle said. If other beach towns can expect the same, they should know what’s coming.

Earlier this week, U-T San Diego reported that residents in the Encinitas area that received sand in October and November are concerned about pooling near the base of cliffs in the Leucadia area.

Back in IB, further south on Seacoast Drive, Robin Clegg said she first noticed the water was starting to pool Sept. 26. Clegg is the president of an HOA at Boca Rio Condos at the very southern tip of Seacoast Drive.

Clegg said sand was not made level near rocks outside her house and she first saw water seep through the cracks in her car port Sept. 26 before the project finished in IB and again in mid-October.

Last week was the worst yet, she said, and she’s concerned about future storms.

“We don’t know if we’re going to lose our pipes or if the rocks surrounding the building are sinking and so we have to change them sooner rather than later,” she said.
“We don’t know. We’re not the experts. They’re supposed to be.”

Since she sees small plants beginning to die, she’s now concerned about the salt saturation in the soil and its potential impact on palm trees and other aesthetic plant life at Boca Rios Condos. 

A bulldozer to make the sand level again would likely solve the problem and be a “quick fix,” she said.

First, she said, SANDAG needs to recognize sand replenishment caused the problem.

“We’ve met them out on-site and pretty much a SANDAG project engineer told us the sand replenishment wasn’t causing a problem, which is a lie,” she said.

“One of our game plans now is we’re going to contact other homeowner associations because they may not realize the water running in the road and in their garages is from sand replenishment,” she said.

She hopes a collective effort will bring more attention for property owners and the beach south of her property, which she has started to call the “lagoon.”

Clegg said she is also concerned about the integrity of sidewalks and streets.

Imperial Beach Public Works Director Hank Levien said there may very well be some damage to streets and sidewalks on Seacoast Drive, but is not sure whether the impact of what is being experienced now can be measured compared to what the city and residents get during annual storm events.

“Those streets often are inundated with water and sands from storms and high water,” Levien said. “It appears to exacerbated or more extensive now because of the water that is caught between the sand and the home fronts.

“It’s not uncommon for water to seep up through sidewalks and those sort of things, but it usually only lasts as long as the high tide does.”

Water and street improvements don’t typically go well together, he said, “but we are in a beach community so we live with it.

“Asphalt is not made to have water under it, but that’s always been the condition.”

Jon Hall December 08, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Feel very sorry for the owners/renters --- perhaps they should have been told that large swells, coupled with high tides and a storm surge have always caused periodic coastal flooding --- and that the further south you go the worse it gets (ask old timers about the Boca Rio's) ...
Robin Clegg December 08, 2012 at 05:03 PM
We South Seacoast Residence are very aware that high tide waters bring water in to the Cul de sac and then dissipate, The problem is the water is not going away because the ground is severely saturated. We are aware that storms can come and even damage our homes and even destroy them. We were NOT aware that Licensed Engineers, SANDAG Attorney Project Managers, Licensed General Contractors were going to try and destroy our property for us by poor engineering and an unwillingness to address the issue while their equipment was still there. So anyone who is foolish enough to think this is a normal occurrence has not been down there to observe what is actually happening.
Jon Hall December 08, 2012 at 05:44 PM
Robin --- I have personally witnessed beachfront property get washed away by normal high tides since 1955 --- including times where our house near 2nd street had water on the street --- no engineers did this They did, however, fool a lot of politicians into believing that the ocean would not win this age old battle ...
Jon Hall December 08, 2012 at 05:46 PM
A correction --- didn't mean "normal high tides" --- meant yearly "storm tides" ...
Robin Clegg December 08, 2012 at 07:33 PM
This issue is about trapped water due to no grading and improper grading.
Bosn December 08, 2012 at 08:15 PM
It's obvious that when the sand was replenished on the beach, the gradient wasn't correct. I lived at La Boca RIo back in the early 80's during some extreme storms and I never remember seeing this type of "pooling" or seepage. SANDAG needs to accept responsibility and correct the situation immediately before more damage is done to the foundations and below ground structures. This could inevitably open up the way for a slew of lawsuits which can be rather costly. Doesn't seem like it would take this long to acquire one bulldozer to level the sand and remove the pooled water. But then again...
Robin Clegg December 08, 2012 at 09:11 PM
At Boca Rio we asked SANDAG to take care of this design flaw before pulling the equipment off the project and they were very clear that the project was complete and that they were leaving with all of the machines needed to correct their work.
cynthia ellen hites December 08, 2012 at 11:46 PM
precisely, robin. i;ve lived in the 1500 block of south seacoast for years, walking every single day and observing.... even with the winter & regular high tides that flood out the end of the culdesac - its NEVER been like this - the water being forced up through the cracks -- it is NOT NORMAL, and should be very alarming to anyone who lives here. If they drag their feet any longer - the total infrastructure of all the properties along the oceanside will be completely doomed. I think they've done more damage in a month trying to "fix" things than mother nature could have wreaked in years. Someone better fix this quickly - cuz those property values are going to sink just like the homes.
cynthia ellen hites December 08, 2012 at 11:50 PM
maybe a few lawsuits would be a catalyst to a solution
Robin Clegg December 09, 2012 at 12:20 AM
It is unfortunate that it may have to come to that. They should have fixed this when we complained so we would not have to go down that legal road. Maybe we homeowners will have to get our heads together along our stretch of Seacoast and figure out what comes next.
John Galt December 09, 2012 at 02:02 AM
Go get a few guys from Home Depot and a few shovels and move some of the sand to stop pooling.
Robin Clegg December 09, 2012 at 02:37 AM
Oh if it were only that easy we would have done that long ago!
John Galt December 09, 2012 at 12:00 PM
It is that easy. Makes a point and solves the problem. Don't ask permission, beg for forgiveness later. Attack the problem. Better than losing your home. Besides, people are lazy, wanting others to move the sand for them. Get help from the community and go play in the sand.
Libi Uremovic December 09, 2012 at 02:22 PM
and there we have the official word from the city ... we already blew your $200,000 so go buy shovels and do it yourself... ha ha ha... and the official word about lighting ....the million it cost to change out the poles is gone so just chop down the poles to whatever length you want...ha ha ha... i know giving direction to council and firing these people are a big scary step, but it's obvious that city officials have no intention of changing....
Libi Uremovic December 09, 2012 at 02:26 PM
"...Don't ask permission, beg for forgiveness later. ..." yes, i remember this wise advice given to the citizenry earlier this year when the tax payers needed an alley repaired ... the residence were told that the city will not use tax payer dollars for the basic needs of the community, but the tax payer can take more money and time out of their own pocket .... ...and after the citizenry took their own money and time to repair the alley the city came and fined them $1,000... ...ha ha ha...
Libi Uremovic December 09, 2012 at 02:48 PM
sandag is another layer of bloated bureaucracy that needs to be completely shut down.... 43% of sandag money is our federal tax dollars 11% is state tax dollars 46% comes only from local and country tax dollars... sandag's wages have gone from $23.4 million to $26 million in the last 2 years... sandag's expenses are $4.9 million....$2.5 million just for rent/facilities... is this government agency actually paying $200,000/month rent?? the local, state, and feds need to line-item sandag off every budget...
Robin Clegg December 09, 2012 at 03:12 PM
That is why it was so easy for SANDAG to say hey the project is done and we are pulling out to the next unsuspecting community. It is our tax dollars paying for this mess so what is a little extra money to have to haul in equipment and fix their mess and pay for our damages...they don't care it isn't there money it is our money the taxpayers!
John Galt December 10, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Libi I bought a truck load of gravel for the alley by one of my rental propertries. I laid it out and rolled it it MYSELF. Problem solved. I did not ask permission, nor get a permit. I did so because it needed doing and I would benefit. Sometimes city governments need to learn just to stay out of the way with basic situations. The people like Greg Wade can't help themselves but to insert themselves them where they don't belong. So put up or shut up you want to help do something.
John Galt December 10, 2012 at 02:39 PM
Libi - what official word from the city that I offer? I do not work for the city nor represent the city. Come to think that I've never been in a government job. Libi - unlike you I'm a problem solver not a complainer. So lead, follow, or get out of the way. Cutting light post to the proper length for community lighting solves a problem. Moving sand solves the problem. Putting down your own gravel solves a problem. None of these are that hard to figure out, except for simple minds.
Libi Uremovic December 10, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Libi Uremovic December 10, 2012 at 03:56 PM
if you were a member of the private sector and community you would be using your real name, not various psudo names....
Robin Clegg December 10, 2012 at 06:27 PM
By the way my husband offered to bring in our own equipment at our personal expense, operate the equipment with our personal time and do the work but we did ask SANDAG for assistance with getting the permit. They informed us they had nothing to do with the permit and we took it no further. I have enough experience working with Government to know that if I drive my equipment on the beach the financial risk of fines is more than I am personally willing to expose myself and my family to. Again shovels won't do the job!
Jim December 11, 2012 at 12:50 AM
Sand shouldn't have been dumped on our beach in the first place. Trying to mess with nature just does not work. It always has the upper hand. This problem has nothing to do with the tides or swells! The extra sand has put pressure on the water table and has forced the water to redirect to the streets, garages and planters. I've seen the water flowing out from under the condos at the end of Boco Rio. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Sinkholes will develop and SANDAG should be held responsible. But of course any government agency will deny responsibility and let the public pay for the damage. What a shame this had to happen in our community!
ibcalif December 11, 2012 at 12:55 AM
I received this 10 minutes ago: There have been problems with pooling water and drainage in areas where new sand was placed, including the southern portion of Seacoast Drive in Imperial Beach. On Tuesday, December 11th, SANDAG will start remedial grading on the new sand to alleviate the problems. Please feel free to contact Shelby Tucker at SANDAG (619-699-1916 or shelby.tucker@sandag.org) for more information. Thank you. Ed Vea Administrative Secretary II Office of the City Manager and Council City of Imperial Beach 825 Imperial Beach Blvd. Imperial Beach, CA 91932 Phone: (619) 423-8303 - Fax: (619) 628-1395 evea@cityofib.org - www.cityofib.com
Robin Clegg December 11, 2012 at 01:06 AM
Jim what you speak of as far as the pressure may be very true and is something that sounds logical to my non engineering mind and is something we have discussed at Boca Rio. I appreciate that you understand what a big problem this is.
Robin Clegg December 11, 2012 at 01:08 AM
Ed thank you for the heads up. I sure the heck have not received this update from Shelby and she sure the heck knows how to get a hold of me! What a mess.
cynthia ellen hites December 11, 2012 at 04:52 AM
exactly right, jim. the ocean has the upper hand -- and is now stealthily planning to play it. To quote Jim, "This is a disaster waiting to happen." every syllable of what your said is true an should be heeded by "government". The whole of South Seacoast is currently and; deceptively passively, by the sea, being undermined. Shovels and good intentions are no replacement for proper planning, and (unfortunately) willingness to IMMEDIATELY accept responsibility and correct it. so happy to see ibcalif post with explanation. for me, the new sand has ruined IB. ruined my seaglass walks. ruined my ghost surfing (when its really foggy i could sit on the rocks and watch surfers)..... now i cant even see surfers from my joint. bye bye apartment! i'm one of your vacancies, imperial beach real estate. SANDAG ruined IB at least for the next 5, 10 years for those of us on south seacoast who used to have awesome beach access, waves at night and a way to get to the water without crossing a frickin mote or steep cliff. Way lame dudes. way lame
cynthia ellen hites December 11, 2012 at 04:55 AM
thank you for the info, ibcalif; it's super important
Libi Uremovic December 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM
private citizens cutting down the lamp posts with a chain saw was being a 'problem solver' ? 1. the lamp posts aren't wood, they're made from the most expensive granite that can be purchased - so they can't be 'cut down with a chain saw'. 2. there is electrical wiring inside of lamp posts and a designer light fixture that's 22' in the air that has to be accounted for. i know in your world you can just 'delete' the additional 10' of poll, wiring, and the hundreds of thousands of wasted tax payer dollars... but in the real world when you 'cut down' a 22' granite light pole it will fall to the ground and break into several pieces on impact... the 12' of pole at the top will be shattered....and the electrical wiring will be ripped out of the sidewalk. you do not understand government or business the citizenry has already paid top price for the lighting... we paid for the job to be done right. and we paid council to address the issues of the citizenry. and we paid management for the common sense to purchase efficient lighting and to use the tax payer dollars most wisely. the request from the citizenry was 'pedestrian lighting' along seacoast.....only 12' poles should have ever been suggested by city officials and only 12' poles should have ever been approved by council. let the people that pillaged the tax payer dollars give back the millions wasted and yes, we will just do it ourselves but give us back our money


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