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Marijuana May Be Back on IB Ballot in 2014

Imperial Beach resident Marcus Boyd, who helped author and champion Proposition S to change medical marijuana regulation in IB, intends to begin a new effort soon to allow a dispensary to open in IB, he told Patch.

Boyd said he intends to speak at a city council meeting Wednesday to invite city officials to discuss the matter but if the Imperial Beach City Council doesn't support a change to current law a ballot initiative will be sought.

"We have decided that we understand the issue is contentious for those who refuse to educate themselves on the medical need so we have decided to swallow the desire to provide equitable and fair access to just provide any access," he said.

The effort comes after voters shot down Proposition S in 2012 with 4,122 (58 percent) no votes to 2,926 (41 percent) yes votes.

Special care was given to address concerns people showed with the 2012 ballot measure, Boyd said. 

"The allowance to use on site is going to be removed, we're going to limit the dispensary to city of IB residents only," he said.

A rule to allow people to smoke marijuana at the dispensary was removed, hours of operation reduced and the possibility that dispensaries could open near the beach was also removed.

And unlike in 2012 when a pro Prop S group received funding from across the region to become the best funded political group in Imperial Beach, a group of about 30 local residents will push the ballot measure, not outside groups.

"It will be Imperial Beach only. There won't be outside consultants," Boyd said, though paid signature gatherers may be used to do targeted signature gathering.

A petition to put the Compassionate Access Ordinance of Imperial Beach on the ballot may be filed with City Clerk Jacqueline Hald by the end of the week. About 1,000 signatures, or 10 percent of Imperial Beach registered voters, would be needed to place it on the ballot.

Supporters of medical marijuana regulation will rely on the list of people who signed the petition in 2012 to sign again so the campaign won't have to go door-to-door.

"We have no other choice," he said. "At this point I get people at my desk on a regular basis asking me how to find it. This is kind of bad."

Would you be OK with a dispensary opening in Imperial Beach? Share in comments.
Patch Reader December 17, 2013 at 05:45 PM
It's pretty much inevitable the more people they get to support these dispensaries the more likely you will see them, regardless of what Dr. Oz thinks (lol) and FYI, I have a pot smoking parent and this person is a highly intelligent engineer so don't be so quick to stick a label on everyone! Even if you "think" you raise your child right, he or she will always have those friends to peer pressure them into smoking pot.....no matter how perfect you may think your child is or how much you protect them! anyone who has smoked weed does not have withdraws as you do when you are a recovering alcoholic. Pot is mentally addicting, it's not physically addicting. The most you will get is a pot smoker who is in a mad mood versus a drunk who kills innocent people! If there were a choice I would choose pot all day long! (and I don't even smoke pot, this is just my opinion.)
Miley Serious December 17, 2013 at 07:06 PM
It's not OK there is a liquor store on every single block in IB but sick people who really need safe access to this miraculous plant known as cannabis can't get it. I can't stand drunks. They ruin families. Marcus Boyd isn't proposing that a dispensary be opened on every block like these liquor stores. SAFE access is what it's about. Seeing my sister after several invasive surgeries heal faster & more safely using topical cannabis oil vs. the highly addictive morphine & oxy pills prescribed to her (she opted not to take), I am a firm believer in the healing cannabis plant. Dr. Oz is paid to endorse whatever they tell him to, like any TV personality so his advice doesn't weigh heavily with me. And I can site many research studies from here & around the world proving that high levels of THC actually CURE cancer by killing diseased cells in the body. Especially Rick Simpson cannabis oil. So Patty DeHart, please do some research before being so quick to judge. If a person has an addictive personality, they will get addicted to anything, be it drugs or alcohol. Why should responsible cannabis users who need their medicine have to suffer? I've known more people who've OD'd & died on prescription pain pills & alcohol but NOT ONE from using cannabis.
Patch Reader December 17, 2013 at 07:25 PM
@ Miley!!! nailed it right on the money! Misinformed people should not comment!!!!
Patty DeHart December 17, 2013 at 08:11 PM
I can see this an emotionally charged issue. I thought I could voice my conservative opinion in this way without being called names, bullied or being called out! That was not the case! I would not do that to others. I was trying to help children who don't have a voice. Beware to others for voicing your opinion!!!
Patty DeHart December 17, 2013 at 08:11 PM
I can see this an emotionally charged issue. I thought I could voice my conservative opinion in this way without being called names, bullied or being called out! That was not the case! I would not do that to others. I was trying to help children who don't have a voice. Beware to others for voicing your opinion!!!
Libi Uremovic December 17, 2013 at 08:40 PM
you're not a 'conservative' - a conservative believes in limited government control and more personal freedom ....................... you're not 'helping children' by following the same system of lies and distortions that has destroyed this country.............. you award yourself arbitrary titles that are the opposite of your mantra...... if you want to 'help children' ...you can start by telling then the truth....
Jake I.B. December 17, 2013 at 10:58 PM
Libi, Just because Ca wants to violate federal drug laws does not mean that any particular municipality there in should lay down and let illegal trends be pushed down their throat by crooked politicians. Even if such activity were legal in our Great nation plenty of counties choose not to allow the purchase / sale of certain items such as alcohol. Bans on such sales are always based on a consensus of the populous of that county. The folks that want alcohol who reside in the aforementioned counties just travel to the area that does allow sales of the product they want. The citizens of I.B. have spoken in a large consensus on this matter. We don't want this type of rif raf attracting industry in our town. If you are in so much pain ( and I do sympathize )that you need your THC... You shouldn't have any trouble finding your way to a municipality that allows such sales. Miley, I couldn't agree more on the liquor stores here in IB. I would like to see them all zoned out so that more legitimate family oriented businesses would move into IB. As far as these so called " " dispensaries I haven't seen much in my Tabers or Merck manual on the healing powers of Afghani pineapple purple panama express or what ever kid luring flavor they have this month. No one with half a brain is fooled by the notion that you hipsters want this weed shop for medical use!! Just put it out there like that homeless guy at the end of palm " why lie I want to get high". Diamond, Just because your parent is an engineer does not make him/her the end all be all on intelligence and definitely not an authority on good parenting in my humble opinion. It's easy to see why you could be such a defeatist on peer pressure if your folks push illegal behavior on their kids. So we will consider your intelligent parent argument flawed at best. Further more I would bet you consider an enginer (not your parent but mine) that smokes cigaretts foolish and down right abusive if they were to smoke marlboro reds in front of their kids. The only one in this thread that has made any since, besides me of course, is Patty. I am currently raising my kids here and stand corrected that any parent that has a vested interest in their kids well being can mitigate a fair amount of the peer pressure put out by the kids of engineers with an illegal pot habit. The only thing more shady than a marijuana dispensary is a crack house off Crenshaw. Keep them out of IB. Oh and don't leave your bike out it will get stolen by some one looking to sell it for money to buy drugs.
Jake I.B. December 17, 2013 at 11:02 PM
Oh...Diamond might want to remove that your parent smokes weed as an engineer if he/she is current employed he would likely be fired.
Patty DeHart December 18, 2013 at 12:02 AM
Dr.Oz show on 12/4/2013 shows what conclusions he himself came to!!
Libi Uremovic December 18, 2013 at 12:39 AM
'...Bans on such sales are always based on a consensus of the populous of that county....' that goes against the principals of democracy and capitalism............but democracy and capitalism are only theories that don't account for the human desire to believe in lies... in this country our laws are suppose to represent the effect of the action, not whatever is trendy ... nothing is going to change the past's poor choices, but it's time to do what is right for the community and country and turn our economy around....
Libi Uremovic December 18, 2013 at 12:51 AM
'...he citizens of I.B. have spoken in a large consensus on this matter. ...' ib is a perfect example of why the state has to step in to enforce the law ....you've continually run the city into the ground then expect the rest of the state and country to pay your way..... it's ridiculous that in this state and country in the 21st century we need laws on the books to protect peoples' right to grown and utilize plants .....
Jake I.B. December 18, 2013 at 01:41 AM
Not sure how I have run the city into the ground. I actually pay a great deal of property and sales tax here in IB. Also Exactly what law is being broken by city council on this issue? We are talking about city zoning here not state law. If we are talking about federal law which the state is breaking by pseudo legalizing marijuana then yes the state should step in and stop the state from breaking the law. I agree with you on city council not acting in the best interest of the people in many cases but in this particular case I am with them in upholding the majority of the people's wishes. As far as growing your own I have a pretty good feeling as long as you don't have a yard full of the stuff and you aren't selling it to kids in route to school no one in the sheriffs depart is going to come looking for you...Especially while wife knifers are running around on 9th and Palm. With that in mind If I can smell it next door you are a disrespectful neighbor and you should have the cops called on you. At least when I drink my scotch in excess you don't catch a contact buzz next door weed smokers are some of the most disrespectful folks around in this regard.
Libi Uremovic December 18, 2013 at 09:30 AM
'...I can smell it next door you are a disrespectful neighbor and you should have the cops called on you. ...' i feel the same way about people that cook bacon ...and bacon is far more harmful to self and society than weed.... if weed is illegal then everything that's more dangerous than weed should be more illegal..... what should the penalty be for possession of bacon - how about 5 years in prison ?? ....does that sound 'fair' ?? ..... processed sugar is considered one of the most harmful and addicting products on the market ..... and people feed it to their kids and ruin their kids' lives....
Libi Uremovic December 18, 2013 at 09:51 AM
weed is illegal not because of harm to self and society, but because of lobbyists and special interest groups .... everyone can see that the country has deteriorated, but no one wants to admit that their actions caused the results... democracy only works if allowed to work..... capitalism only works if the free market is allowed to prosper.... in a democracy a person is expected to put their fantasies of grandeur to the side and think about the community and country as a whole.... some of the poorest counties in our state are able to grow the most expensive weed .....the people in the north need to be encouraged to grow weed so they can feed their families and educate their kids..... i'm sorry if all your brains have been programmed to believe a lie, but it's all been a big lie and you're just going to have to accept the fact that it's a lie.... and no, a grown adult with common sense does not continue to cling to the lie just because it's a comfort zone....
Chico&The Man December 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM
were still feeling Harry J. Anslinger ghost its still pushing the lies down peoples throats .... In the meantime head down to High grade on 30th st 4535 30th, San Diego, CA 92116..Full dispensary open ... https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/high-grade-meds
Libi Uremovic December 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM
let's look at the results of the last two years - it's a wonderful life style....what would ib look like if weed stores were allowed to open.... # 1. - there would be a couple less empty buildings ....yea, just a couple - maybe three ......all the scare stories about flooding the town with weed stores was a fear tactic to control the masses - but it went against common sense regarding a private sector industry.... # 2 - there would be a dozen good paying jobs in town ....dante drives a bus and makes less money per week than he could make in a day as a weed store security guard.... # 3 - 2nd tier revenue - people would travel to ib to make retail purchases .... doctors and alternative care facilities would find ib a great location if the city didn't suppress capitalism........................................................................ ...................................................................................... society is seeing the harmful effects of chemicals & pills and are turning back to more natural cures for physical and mental health issues...................................................................... it would be smart for ib to position itself as a town that caters to this demographic - it will bring in upper middle-class tourists and people with disposable income............................. if people want to see positive results for their community and country they have to start making wise choices and control their government instead of allowing the government to control them....
Chico&The Man December 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM
Many people assume that marijuana was made illegal through some kind of process involving scientific, medical, and government hearings; that it was to protect the citizens from what was determined to be a dangerous drug. The actual story shows a much different picture. Those who voted on the legal fate of this plant never had the facts, but were dependent on information supplied by those who had a specific agenda to deceive lawmakers. You’ll see below that the very first federal vote to prohibit marijuana was based entirely on a documented lie on the floor of the Senate.. http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/
Jake I.B. December 18, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Nice work Piña... problem solved. A location where the citizens don't mind the particular sale of goods in question and where federal law is not enforced this is the solution that I was talking about. Libi Again I will remind you that this is a zoning issue not a state or federal law issue. I would like to be able to purchase a Cape buffalo but IB zoning does not allow for this. The Cape buffalo has ruined more life's in Africa than weed or bacon combined. Why shouldn't I be able to purchase my Cape buffalo here in IB furthermore why can't I have more than 3 Chickens in my yard raise sheep or goats. Why can I not build a garage in my side yard or have 50 cats legally in my house.... None of these things would physically harm anyone else so Why? It's all in the zoning my friend. Zoning that is for the most part established by the people for the people to establish the safe living environment that the people ( who can legally vote) desire to the highest level possible. I think we are some what saying the same thing in regard to civil liberties but you want to go around federal law to accomplish getting you THC fix. I want federal Law changed completely to allow for the civil liberties you think the city should provide. I would still want the city to zone out Mary Jane and the liquor stores as I prefer the smell of bacon over weed and drunks any day. Libi not likening the smell of bacon is about as in American as you can get you really don't like bacon?
Patch Reader December 18, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Libi, you have made very excellent points, all other comments are just rubbish!
Jean Villard December 18, 2013 at 12:52 PM
Lets face the facts. The war on drugs is big business, big business is big money and big money is someones salary.
Patch Reader December 18, 2013 at 02:57 PM
SERIOUSLY? SO let's say there is a "Weed Store" (as you call it).......So do you think that the general public would be able to just freely walk in and buy what ever they want? if you answered YES then you are dead ass wrong! First of all you need a medical card and the only way to do that is to have one issued by a licensed Doctor, and the only way he can issue one is if you have some sort of chronic health problem. You are more likely to see trouble at a liquor store with a drunk then you are at a "weed store" with a stoner.
Jake I.B. December 18, 2013 at 03:50 PM
Yes seriously! Weed store is brevity by the way and seeing as how so many are interested in discussing history of the plant... It is indeed a weed. This primary product of the " " dispensary coins its rightful labeling but I digress. I do think that the " " marijuana card is a complete joke and about as easy to forge as a ca voter registration card. "Dead ass wrong" hmm...easy we are just trying to have a calm rational debate here. if anyone is dead ass wrong about the types of people that will frequent the establishment and procure the product in question it would be you sir. Your data of comparison to liquor stores is based on speculation not fact as their are not enough weed shops around for a fair comparison. I have heard nothing but negative reporting from left and right media outlets on conduct in and around any dispensary. If you have any positive reporting I would be very interested in reading it in hopes of broadening my knowledge base. But with that in mind why not broaden your own thinking as to why so many every day folks don't want this type of activity in their midst.
Chico&The Man December 18, 2013 at 04:41 PM
Right on the fact that anyone can obtain a 215 recommendation very easily and No you can't forge a card what most refer to as the marijuana card is a recommendation paper , some 215 MD's recommend you buy the wallet size card but that's worthless in a police encounter or to visit certain collectives. that is verifiable when joining a collective or frequenting one most require you have your valid rec w/ you at all times a recommendation is printed on a sheet of paper with the doctors official seal thats like a notary with the MD's Lic # and info unless you have access to the MD's computer codes for the site they are using to store your info for verification there is No way to Forge a recommendation.There is no need to forge anything as you can obtain one verbally with No type of medical history in print $30.00 for 1 year. the hearing about media outlet's negative reporting well just realize that there are collectives in areas like berkley harborside in oakland arcata collective in humboldt and throught northern cal and mendocino that are on a whole other level compared to so cal. my good friend steve de angelo runs, Harborside if you are not seeking cannabis info data or insight in this industry frequently then of course all your gonna hear is what you stated and if we say well were did u hear that the likley answer would be The news ? unless you have worked at a collective and dealt with the members of you're collective some times on a daily basis for months on end the types of people that come thru are exactly like you and the rest of the people in our everyday lives a collective's members are the community check out the series discovery did in 2012 called weed wars about steve his mission and harborside this will broaden your base for sure ..check out the latest on what colorado's experiencing since legalization pretty interesting data and info.
Chico&The Man December 18, 2013 at 05:23 PM
check out harborsides page .http://www.youtube.com/user/HarborsideHealth knowledge base 101 ** The proper legal terms for medical marijuana establishments, including retail-style storefronts, engaged in distribution of medical marijuana are “collectives” and “cooperatives.” The California medical marijuana laws, including various provisions within the California Health & Safety Code, require such establishments to be organized as either collectives or cooperatives. A “dispensary” is a colloquial, general or generic term that has no specific legal meaning. Every establishment calling itself a dispensary must either be a collective or a cooperative.
Libi Uremovic December 18, 2013 at 05:23 PM
'...It is indeed a weed....' so is asparagus and tomatoes .... and here's a news flash for you...mushrooms are a fungus.... people used to 'believe' that tomatoes were poisonous....their 'belief' was false and all the boogie man stories about the evils of tomatoes never came true and eventually people got too embarrassed to verbalize their stupidity regarding a plant and the boogie man stories faded.... we are far past the time for people to be embarrassed that they have demonized a plant....way past .... 21st century and 1/2 the county fights to live in the dark ages.... what is wrong with the human race ?? 10,000 years of humanity, but we can not progress.... we just keep repeating the same cycles of destruction and government dominance over and over...
Chico&The Man December 18, 2013 at 06:21 PM
AS we were discussing all this PB collective was eing raided Pacific Beach marijuana dispensary closed after federal raid..12/18/13 One of the most prominent medical marijuana dispensaries in Pacific Beach is closed after a federal raid Wednesday morning. Drug Enforcement Administration agents carried out dozens of boxes of evidence out of Garnet Greens, which is near the intersection of Garnet Avenue and Bayard Street, beginning around 6 a.m...watch the news at 5 pm..ch 6 http://www.sandiego6.com/story/pacific-beach-marijuana-dispensary-closed-after-federal-raid-20131218
Marcus Boyd December 18, 2013 at 08:15 PM
The council will be addressed tonight regarding this issue. 6pm on Cox ch. 24 (a.k.a. San Diego Public Access TV)
Kay Kardian-Porter December 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Reminds me when prohibition was being done. The government took control of the booze the bootleggers lost revenue. Now, since that time look at the booze flow. If the government would take control it would make our deficit go down. It goes to show you how our government works. In the end you can bank on it the government will eventually TAKE control.
Patch Reader December 19, 2013 at 01:08 PM
@ Libi, hahahah you crack me up. I love that analogy! I guess some people have never heard of the positive side effects that "weed" has on it's patients. Guess they are just gonna have to stick to their overwhelmingly addictive and sometimes deadly prescription meds. LMAO
Chico&The Man December 20, 2013 at 12:43 PM
The govenment holds the Patents on medical marijuana.. On the one hand, United States federal government officials have consistently denied that marijuana has any medical benefits. On the other, the government actually holds patents for the medical use of the plant.Just check out US Patent 6630507 titled “Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants” which is assigned to The United States of America, as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services. Regardless of the medicinal value a collective in Ib would not last 90 days ......

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