Poll: Should Labor Unions Lose Paycheck Deductions for Political Spending?

Proposition 32 on November ballot seeks to cripple the labor movement, critics argue. Supporters say it's a necessary check on the power of "special interests."

Happy Labor Day! Whether a union represents you or not, your vote will help decide a November ballot measure that is keeping labor leaders up at night. Proposition 32, according to its advocates, “stops special interests from taking political deductions from employee paychecks to guarantee every dollar given for politics is strictly voluntary.”  But critics say: “This measure says it prohibits unions from using payroll-deducted funds for political purposes. It says it also applies to corporations, so it sounds balanced. But 99 percent of California corporations don’t use payroll deductions for political giving; they would still be allowed to use their profits to influence elections.”  Which argument influences you?

M.Legison October 26, 2012 at 05:52 AM
Thom, I did it again and this time went down to about 25, added in the unions and the corporations and the unions still have the edge. My original statement was almost correct--I just left out a couple of unions. I did not include PACs. Fact is, when you combine the union contributions and factor in that the contributions are nearly all to Democrats, this is truly tyranny by the majority. This is why Prop 32 must pass to get this state working again instead of being run by the oppressive unions.
Thom Bogue October 26, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Here is the interesting factor which most if not all of us know to be true. Facts are where you find them and if you look hard enough you will find supporting facts for any position you want. This is bigger than that look at what impacts this will have on the working class if all of your and my representatives primarily recieve contributions from corporations. Look at what the Monsanto and what they have done with the agriculture supply. Look at what they have accomplished by putting their people in position in our goverment. Pure corporate dollars and no balance of power. This is just one example of what corporations can do if left unchecked. So go ahead and eliminate unions influence on our goverment, enjoy that new found freedom of corporate power and greed at our exspense and above all else please do not look into the future of what the outcome will be. Stay in the present! In the mean time just in case you want to look alittle into the past to study the consequence look up Monsanto and how they now control most of the grain industry in the world and what happens to those who oppose them. I know all Hogwash right! Corporations would never do this! Not to us the people! Where were the unions in the Monsantos Corporation to watch out for us, that's right "none existed" was that by design? So keep deminishing the influence of unions and reap your just rewards!
Thom Bogue October 26, 2012 at 08:29 PM
Mr M. Legison, Just for giggles I went back to your link looking at the top 5 donors over the past 11 years. WOW! WOW! WOW!, factoring in the one union listed at 118 million and combining the other four listed at 343 million I believe that to be real close to 1:3 ratio. I went thru all 8 catagories "Gee Wiz Wally" that's a whole lot of money being spent by corporations and independants compared to unions - you do the math! This is just straight numbers with no tinkering to pervert the information one way or another.
Cinnamon red November 06, 2012 at 09:51 PM
I am voting yes on proposition 32 and the reason why is that I do not like that fact of anyone taking money out from my pay checks that I worked hard for. Yes I do pay my taxes on a yearly basis, but other than that no one else shouldn't have that right to do something like that. All of these weird unions walking around taking someones hard earned money from there checks, shouldn't no longer be and we should always keep those kinds of people in check. By the way! Pam Pinkston, you rock lady, I like u a lot. Keep teaching on, sending them fools back to school.
Pam Pinkston November 06, 2012 at 10:15 PM
LOL! Thanks, Cinnamon. It's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it! Hope we'll be seeing more of your comments here---keep exercising those free speech muscles!


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