Comments about Dante Pamintuan's 'Some Unhealthy Facts About Marijuana'

Marcus Boyd October 29, 2012 at 09:55 pm

You keep questioning the science, the law, the people... but it's really time you start questioning yourself and your motives.
To site only one study, that examined smoke in a sealed chamber, and ignore numerous follow-up studies using humans and lungs, is as ridiculous as the No on S campaign's reefer madness slogans. Good luck with all that noise! A YES ON S vote, and/or an Erika Lowery win, will send a clear message to our local politricksters.

John Galt October 30, 2012 at 11:09 am

Marcus - do you and your family LIVE and VOTE in Imperial Beach? If not, then SHUT UP.
Do you own the property your business is in? Do you have anything to risk? I don't think so. I own a home, a business, and have rental propertries in Imperial Beach and the stakes are too high for carpet baggers, who is anyone who does not LIVE in Imperial Beach to screw things up. My NO vote does not mean that I am objecting to medical needs. My NO vote means I am objecting to the DANGEROUS method of distribution and sale. I strongly belive we all have plenty of facts to support the facts that a yes vote on POOP S will bring additional crime which the residents and property owners will need to pay for. The poop yes side has no controls or filters. Lies and lies is the operational mode. If the TRUTH was told, poop S would go down in flames. There are many other ways for the medical needs of cancer patients to get pot if they need it. What poop S does is allow pot to be sold openly, which will ruin neighboor hoods, put small children at risk, and allow the Carpet Baggers to make LARGE PROFITS while avoiding taxes from all the cash transactions. TELL THE TRUTH - you won't. Happily you don't live in Imperial Beach, so you can even vote on it. Butt out Carpet Bagger! ...

Summer Hemphill October 30, 2012 at 04:17 pm

A no vote is no vote at all ! The courts have ruled that storefront medical marijuana dispensaries are legal under present state law & municipalities (& local voters) are "pre-empted" from banning them because to do so contravenes California law ! Don't take my word for it,look at the Appellate Court decisions yourself or better yet ask an attorney to explain it to you ! The present dispensary ban is no longer enforceable & dispensaries will open in Imperial Beach no later than January regardless of the outcome of Measure S ! Vote any way you like,but if you think your no vote will have any effect on the opening & operation of dispensaries here you're only fooling yourselves ! Vote for reasonable regulations,Vote Yes on S !!!

John Galt October 30, 2012 at 04:23 pm

Vote with intelligence, Vote NO on poop S

Summer Hemphill October 30, 2012 at 04:41 pm

John Galt is at least as ignorant of the law as he is about medical marijuana ! His cognitive abilities fall somewhere between those of ground squirrels & toaster ovens ! He's just another biased self-righteous simpleton trying to impose his outdated values & throughly repudiated propaganda on an electorate far too intelligent to be duped by his repugnant rhetoric ! I'm looking forward to laughing in his face,right after I blow some smoke in it when the first dispensary opens ! John you pick the time & place,I'll supply a crowd to jeer you & congratulate me on humiliating you again ! Don't be a John Galt (angry,clueless & dim-witted) insist that Imperial Beach comply with state law & VOTE YES on S !!!

John Galt October 31, 2012 at 12:20 am

Hemp - and when you cry because you find our you are like Lea, a looser, what are you going to do?
I will meet you at my polling place next Tuesday at 7:00 sharp. Be there on time, I won't wait for losers. No on POOP S. the yes side is as you see in Hemphill, losers

Frank Mockery October 31, 2012 at 02:43 pm

John Galt is lying to you again,voting against Measure S won't keep dispensaries from opening in IB because the courts have ruled that local bans are unlawful now since Measure S was drafted ! The cities present ban is unenforceable & legal dispensaries will open shortly regardless of the results of Measure S ! Don't take my word for it,get a legal opinion or read the Appellate Court rulings for yourself ! It's become quite obvious that those opposed to Measure S are ignorant not only when it comes to medical marijuana,but have absolutely no grasp of the law either ! So vote no if you please,because it won't stop medical marijuana dispensaries from opening soon & anyone who thinks they can continue to ban them is a fool !

John Galt October 31, 2012 at 05:07 pm

NO on POOP S
Mockery - How dare you call me a liar. You are one of many making a mockery out of a serious issues. How am I lying? A NO POOP S Vote will do many thing. For one, it will allow OUR ELECTED CITY LEADERS write a law that is SAFE for IB. Unlike POOP S is which is not safe for anyone. A NO POOP S Vote will also send a message to the carpet baggers that Imperial Beach is not for sale. I have a legal opnion, the verdict is in POOP S is bad for everyone, but the carpetbaggers. When young mothers and children are murdered on the streets, the pro pot people will blame something else. POOP S opens up IB to a drug culture that we don't need. If POOP S was good for IB people would rally around it. Instead, we get lots of money and "volunteers" from out of town. What a load of crap. The fight is over the method of sale. The prop pot people can't get past that. Mockery - stop with the personal insults and attacks and stay focused if you can. Just admit that POOP S, the open selling pot, is not safe for anyone. Only a fool would think otherwise. Thank you

Brash Brazen October 31, 2012 at 05:23 pm

You're full of the only poop in Imperial Beach,which is to be expected when your head is obstructing your sphincter !!!!! It's clueless conservative cretins like you spewing repugnant rhetoric from their putrid pieholes that will sway the last few undecided voters to join their friends & neighbors & Vote YES on MEASURE S !!!!!

John Galt October 31, 2012 at 06:28 pm

Vote NO on POOP S
Brash - you have a simple mind. Is it because you burned it out on drugs? This is only about openly selling drugs, POT. Not for medical use as claimed. If it was truly for medical use, the efforts would be better spent getting distribution at CVS... not some dark criminal filled place like at 16th and Palm. We don't need that and you are too stupid to see that. Crime stats prove that laws like POOP S are bad for cimmunities. But you can't read, again because of the drugs. You are like Lea - a mental case. Go get help before you hurt yourself.

ibsandyshores October 31, 2012 at 06:53 pm

All of our friends, neighbors and family will VOTE NO on S. No one is undecided. JUST VOTE NO. (Brash - you really need to work on anger management. It really doesn't help to convince anyone of anything except that you are one ticked off kid.)

ibsandyshores October 31, 2012 at 07:48 pm

VOTE NO on S

Smiley ShakeANDwink October 31, 2012 at 09:15 pm

Oh, REALLY? Because, if that's so then how come there aren't ANY DEATHS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MAN attributed to it?
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Causes_of_Death It's a complete LIE to say that: "there are %50-%70 more cancer causing agents than tobacco". NAME ONE OF THEM!!! And if that were really the case, then how come there aren't %50-%70 MORE DEATHS annually attributed to smoking marijuana? NAME ONE PERSON who has EVER died from smoking marijuana. NAME ONE. You can't!!! I know you can't because if there was it would be all over the news by now. In fact, all the recent reputable studies indicate quite the contrary, and shows that it destroys cancer cells. THAT DOESN'T SOUND CARCINOGENIC TO ME!!! HERE"S THE .GOV LINK: (It quotes it's SOURCES) http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4

Ibchr October 31, 2012 at 09:34 pm

Wow. Guess some of you are still in Junior High School. Why is it so hard to have an educated civil discussion about this topic?

Marcus Boyd October 31, 2012 at 09:47 pm

Politicians began the discussion with name calling and derogatory references to the medicine many patients use - and need safe access to.
The city council has never allowed a civil discussion about this topic, they have only dictated reefer madness to the people about some kind of doom and gloom that regulating marijuana would cause... Video of yesterday's 'civil' town hall meeting will be released very soon...

John Galt October 31, 2012 at 11:10 pm

NA. I accept the job. Really the Patch will do the reporting of the bad news if POOP S was to pass.

Smiley ShakeANDwink October 31, 2012 at 11:13 pm

I live here and I'm voting Yes on S. Last time I checked, being a business owner
wasn't a pre-requisite for VOTING. Not in THIS FREE COUNTRY I FOUGHT AND BLED FOR, BUDDY!!! As a former patrolman, I can assure you that potheads were always the VERY LEAST of our worries. Too bad for you, I guess, because now that it's been legal for a while, scientists have found that all your Nixonian paranoia about it is untrue, and people are realizing how innocuous it really is on every single front you try to spin lies about. Even if you happen to win this one, it will be a hollow victory because it's only a matter of time on this issue. This is LITERALLY a miracle plant, the facts don't lie. Here's the .gov which POSTS IT'S SOURCES unlike nobutts.org!!! http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4 "Additional crime which residents and property owners will have to pay for"??? I doubt it. In fact, there's some recent findings that prove your concerns regarding that as altogether untrue, and in fact, show the EXACT OPPOSITE to be the case. Read it for yourself: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/27/507019/new-study-finds-no-correlation-between-medical-marijuana-shops-and-crime-rates/?mobile=nc

Smiley ShakeANDwink October 31, 2012 at 11:15 pm

I really wonder about elitist Randians like yourself, I debate you clowns on a regular basis. When I READ 'Atlas Shrugged' and most especially 'The Fountainhead' it occurred to me how fundamentally erroneous her philosophy was, and that moreover: it doesn't work in the REAL WORLD. It's based on selfish entitlements which unwittingly constructs an inevitable rebellion against itself which is a war that can't be won. Not only that, but SHE WAS A HYPOCRITE who was one of those "LEECHES" on WELFARE (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-ford/ayn-rand-and-the-vip-dipe_b_792184.html)
and addicted to amphetamines (http://theweek.com/article/index/203764/ayn-rand-speed-addict) when she died. Who is John Galt? Why he's a sad lonely CITIZEN KANE raging in tears of anger in his self constructed prison called Xanadu, THAT'S WHO!!! That's a CHECK. Your move...

Summer Hemphill November 1, 2012 at 02:16 am

John Galt is typical of the divinely delusional & rabidly rancorous values voters who try to impose their ill-conceived puritanical & moral standards upon a community that overwhelmingly rejects them ! He continues to repeat lie after lie about both medical marijuana & dispensaries even though every specious claim he's made has been thoroughly repudiated by Patch commenters ! The fact that he refers to the measure as POOP S is just indicative of his third grade education & sense of humor ! I don't know which is worse his grammar,spelling or punctuation,but he obviously didn't spend much time in a classroom. Perhaps John can take some remedial classes at Adult School,but in the meantime he should leave the issues he's too dense to understand to those who have a sharper comprehension of this unnecessarily controversial ballot measure. Get the facts online at Americans for Safe Access (ASA),Marijuana Policy Project (MPP),National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) or Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP) websites ! They have the current medical,political & legal information that every conscientious voter should familiarize themselves with before voting on this important matter ! Don't be duped by dim-witted doofus's who refuse to let the facts interfere with their dubious diatribes,delve deeper & determine which data is true for yourselves ! I'm sure that once the majority of IB voters fully understand the truth about this measure they'll Vote Yes on S !

John Galt November 1, 2012 at 07:30 am

NO ON POOP S
It is not safe for Imperial Beach Hemp - me thinks you have smoked too much local weed. You attack me, not the problem, which just proves you have no argument. You make up what you want the voters to read, then get pissed when nobody buys into your bull. POOP S is not safe for anyone. Just admit it and move on. Crime will increase, kids will get hurt, all because you want a joint. Voting yes on Poop S is a yes vote to crime. Voting NO is the rational and moral way to vote.

Isla Parida lodge Panama November 1, 2012 at 01:21 pm

John Galt is not even getting a good nights sleep hes up at 3:30 tweaking on his psycho babble beyond dilussional . explain to us Mr Galt the process in which kids are going to get hurt mothers and children murdered and a rise in crime...

Bong Sativa November 1, 2012 at 02:56 pm

John Galt could probably benefit from the medical use of marijuana to treat his insomnia,delusions,paranoia,pathological lying,short-term memory loss & his multiple personality disorders. Unfortunately there is no cure for being a douche & in John's case stupidity has been diagnosed as a terminal illness. While there's no saving John from the grim reaper,this is your opportunity to chase him away from the doors of your less fortunate neighbors by voting Yes on Measure S ! If you're too busy to familiarize yourself with this issue,just read John's posts & remember there isn't one shred of truth in any of them. I guess if Romney thinks he can keep lying to us over & over when the facts are crystal clear,John figures that strategy will work here too ! Mark my words on November 6th the voters will say Yes to Measure S & no to Mitt & John (or Mutt & Jeff if that analogy works better for you ?). We'll see how small an influence these anti-marijuana hypocrites have on election day & I'm wagering it's pretty miniscule ! Remember many local businesses have not only bankrolled the campaigns of IB's elected leaders,but have joined with them to oppose this measure ! We need to compose a list of who these businesses are for our many supporters,so that patients & their friends can seek retribution against those who have encouraged the city to obstruct our right to "safe & legal access" in defiance of California law ! Let's remember who our real friends are & never forget who they aren't !!

John Galt November 1, 2012 at 04:33 pm

New Assterdam - 3:30, getting ready for work, working a real job and paying taxes, unlike many of the pro POOP S crowd. Today I meet with an out of the area client. I guess you would not understand that.
Crime will increase when the POT STORES, which are PROVEN MAGNETS FOR CRIME as proven time and time again, are robbed, resulting in many people getting hurt and possibly killed including mothers and children. People were hurt in such robberies at POT stores in Los Angeles, San Jose, and Oakland. This is in the news, but just ignored by the pro POOP S side. A NO VOTE on POOP S prevents this crime from coming to Imperial Beach. POT stores increase crime. Anyone saying otherwise is lying. Medical products are sold at PHARMACIES, such as Walgreens or CVS. Medical marijuana can also be sold that way, with great acceptance. Why is it the pro POOP S crowd cannot grasp that simple idea. If you want the product for medical use, get the laws changed to do that. It is the method of distribution that people don’t like. Just say NO to POOP S.

John Galt November 1, 2012 at 04:35 pm

Bong - once again you prove my point why a NO on POOP S is the only reasonable vote. You can't stay focused. Try to keep up next time.

Brash Brazen November 2, 2012 at 12:53 am

John Galt is a pathological liar & the only thing he knows about marijuana he read off a Just Say No flyer left over from the Reagan Administration ! John has despised marijuana users ever since Cab Calloway blew some reefer smoke in his face at a speakeasy ! John is senile & incontinent & he's so old that Teddy Roosevelt personally told him he was too old for military service ! I'm not saying that John is old & out of touch with reality,but his father owned slaves ! Don't be a John when you can be a Joy instead by rejecting the specious lies of the fear mongers & join the enlightened majority of IB voters by voting YES on S November 6th !

John Galt November 2, 2012 at 01:56 am

Brash, Stop it already I'm laughing out loud at your comments. You have no clue about me personally. I can tell from your posting though that you've smoked too much weed As it is proven to affect the brain.
Has continually been done by the pro POOP S side, You resort to personal attacks because you don't have a good argument. Do a little research and try to come up with something original. Personally I don't think you can because your brains burnt out from too much pot.

Brash Brazen November 2, 2012 at 01:57 pm

The good argument is that the law & the facts are on the Yes On S side ! The argument isn't about the use of medical marijuana,it's been legal in California for over sixteen years ! The argument is why has IB been allowed to defy state law by denying us our right to "safe & legal access" to our medication & how do we force the city to comply with state law ? The Appellate Courts have ruled that storefront dispensaries are legal & that local bans are "pre-empted" by state law as they contradict the intent of the voters & legislature & called that contradiction "direct,patent,obvious & palpable" ! Even the California Medical Assn. has endorsed the complete legalization of marijuana for both medical & recreational use ! I'd say that my argument in favor casts your repugnant,specious & fact-free argument against this measure in the proper light ! Vote against regulation if you like,because Measure S limits the number of dispensaries to three & if it fails there may be dozens of dispensaries in IB by this time next year ! Science,public opinion & the law are on our side now,while those opposed spread fear with their despicable lies & anecdotal horror stories ! Wake up,it's 2012 ! I'm a 58 years old cannabis patient,my parents are both dead & I certainly don't need any old bastards telling me what's good for me ! You can take your family values nonsense & stick it where the sun don't shine ! Intelligent & well-informed voters are voting YES on Measure S,only a fool would vote no !

John Galt November 2, 2012 at 04:18 pm

Only a fool would vote yes on POOP S.
It is basically the unregulated sell of pot to anyone who broken into your home to steal your stuff to pay for it. Laws like POOP S have been tried and failed in many cities. In EVERY CITY crime increased. EVERY CITY. The campaign for NO on POOP S is about stopping the growth in crime that will surely in Imperial Beach. We feel you should be buying your medicine at a pharmacy, not in some back alley. The yes on POOP S cannot understand that the fight should be against the FDA. Hell, even the great liberal Obama does not support laws like POOP S, if he did, he would have made it so. Vote with intelligence, reason, and uncommon sense, Vote NO on POOP S. Thank you

Frank Mockery November 3, 2012 at 03:17 am

VOTE YES on S !!! Everybodies doing it !!!

Bong Sativa November 4, 2012 at 03:17 am

The reason Dante doesn't want us to comment on his specious & exagerated claims involving Measure S is that he wants you to tell him how you feel about his propaganda face to face ! If anyone knows where to find him,I'm sure that a very boisterous discussion (rhymes with concussion) would ensue ! Only the smug & arrogant would have the audacity to editorialize without giving the readers the ability to respond to their ill-conceived & blatantly biased work of fiction ! Apparently Dante is afraid of his audience & their opinions are obviously as meaningless to him as he & his poorly written diatribes are to the majority of Imperial Beach voters ! YES on S !!!