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After Attack, IB Woman Wants Pit Bulls Banned from Local Beaches

An Imperial Beach woman's account of a Dec. 22 pit bull attack on her daughter's poodle mix has fueled a debate over which dogs should be considered dangerous and spawned a petition drive to ban certain breeds from local beaches.

The online discussion that has ensued since Caesarina Kelley posted her story Dec. 28 on Imperial Beach Patch has caught the attention of community members and a city councilman. 

Kelley says the pre-Christmas incident on the beach just north of Carnation Avenue badly injured her daughter's 4-year-old dog, a "snickerdoodle" named Simon, when a leashed pit bull broke free from its owner and attacked. 

In the wake of the mauling, Kelley has circulated a petition around town to drum up support for banning pit bulls and other specific breeds from the Imperial Beach shoreline. It's an action City Councilman Brian Pat Bilbray says he can't support. 

Bilbray took to his personal Facebook page Jan. 3 to post a message regarding the controversy:

"Just so we are clear, I Will Not legislate morality from my position, I Will Not punish the majority of good responsible dog owners for the actions of a few, and I Will fight anything that tries to target a specific breed by making it harder to license there dog in the city. All it will do is deter people from registering there dog with the city!"

Kelley told 10News that veterinary care for the pet reached several thousand dollars. She and her daughter were also bitten by the pit bull as they tried to rescue Simon, and were treated at a hospital for cuts and bruises, according to a post in the San Diego Reader. 

"As I picked [the dog] up the pit bull attacked again, grabbed my hands, bit my hands in the attempt to get the dog," Kelley told 10News.

Animal control officers ordered the pit bull's owner to neuter the animal and obtain liability insurance on her homeowner's policy, according to the Reader article. 

10News says Kelley was offered a $100,000 settlement from the dog owner's insurance company, and that she is seeking legal advice.
Jennifer January 23, 2014 at 06:44 PM
Pat, I think you're thinking logically and reasonably. If this was a case where humans were involved it'd be racism to suggest one race is more violent than the other regardless if there is statistical data that proves such a statement... But because it is a dog breed it is okay ?
Marcus Boyd January 23, 2014 at 07:32 PM
It seems to be upheld in courts that insurance companies can discriminate against certain breads of dogs... Here's the well known "short-list", some companies have a more expanded list... Pit Bulls & Staffordshire Terriers, Doberman Pinschers, Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Chows, Great Danes, Presa Canarios, Akitas, Alaskan Malamutes, Siberian Huskies and Wolf-hybrids...
Marcus Boyd January 23, 2014 at 07:40 PM
Shouldn't insurance be required for the breeds of dogs that are called "vicious" by the insurance industry? To put this in the context of everyday life, vehicles - which kill numerous people daily - are only required to carry liability limits of $15,000 per person. The city requires $1,000,000 liability - and wants to be included on the policy - for a bounce house company to setup in city parks - all in the name of "public safety".
Mike Stein January 23, 2014 at 08:39 PM
As far as insurance companies go, here's the real story. Insurance companies are going to be forced (which is a good thing) actually judge each dog based on its individual personality. Breed specific legislation has been outlawed in 17 states. Because it fails To improve safety. Breed specific insurance policies, are the next to go, because they don't improve safety or claims either.
Libi Uremovic January 23, 2014 at 09:26 PM
there should be an insurance requirement for all dogs .... there's no way to separate a breed because of all the mixed breeds and mutts ... when i was living on the island of tortola the old lady that lived next door died and her pregnant dog moved to our house....when i wanted to get rid of the pups my kid's uncle told me to just tell people the dogs were 'pit bull mix'.... i said: the dog's aren't part pit - it's obvious that the dogs are collies, but he assured me that it didn't matter what the dog looks like - and it was true..... once the word got out that i was giving away 'pit bull mix' people wanted the dogs and it didn't matter what they actually looked like... the new trend calling dogs 'akitas' ...i've seen everything from Chihuahuas to saint bernards called akitas ....
Jon Hall January 23, 2014 at 10:51 PM
When this *victim* did the interview with Channel 10 they clearly showed her having the dog off-leash --- and she has stated many times that she never leashes her dogs unless there are enforcement officers around ------ this is nothing more than another entitled person who believes the world revolves around her and it is never her fault ...
Steve Fenske January 24, 2014 at 01:08 AM
What some people find interesting is obscene
Chico&The Man January 24, 2014 at 01:20 AM
What some people find obscene is interesting..
Toni January 24, 2014 at 10:06 AM
I agree go after the people that train there dogs to attack gang dogs etc. but this wasn't that type of dog and look what happened!!!! Insurance doesn't make me feel any safer! I don't walk the streets in fear of an irresponsible dog owner in IB and I don't appreciate people who think it is ok to let there dog come up to my beach area and plow thru it !
JImmy January 24, 2014 at 10:17 AM
You can't ban a breed of Dogs. The owners are responsible to raise the Dog without aggression. Problem is that it is fashionable for people to march this breed around town making them feel like a bad ass. This faction of the Dog owners raise the Dog to be aggressive. Usually PUNKS!
shughes January 24, 2014 at 11:34 AM
WOW, I guarantee this whole story is wrong. I walk the beach in the mornings and see Ms. Kelly often. I have well behaved dogs. Her dogs are NEVER on a leash which I don't have a problem with except that the dog that was attacked is a rescue dog (she told me this) that is not well socialized. It runs at other dogs, barking agressively and Ms. Kelly always does nothing about this behavior. According to the story, the pit was on leash and broke free. My guess is the small dog instigated it and she ignored it's behavior just like she always does until it was too late. Also, I never see her walking with anyone, so if her daugher was a "witness" to the attack, I'd be skeptical of that.
MJ Jordan January 24, 2014 at 11:35 AM
Marylou Sorry to hear about another pit bull attack in IB. My Bichon was attacked several years ago and thanks to IB Pet Hospital his life was saved. The owner of the pit bull did nothing to help with vet bills. She said to me you can't get blood from a turnip. I am reminded to take my golf club when walking my dog.
caesarina keri January 24, 2014 at 12:37 PM
So Preacher Bilbray doesn't want to "legislate morality?" What? Hey Preacher Bilbray, have you heard about "thou shalt not kill?" Well all of the fatalities from dogbites in California last year were from Pitbulls. And just read the above statements from YOUR IB consituents who are TELLING YOU that their small dogs were attacked--that means eaten alive----be Pitbulls. Does that mean anything to you Preacher? Even Insurance Companies REFUSE to Insure them; they are banned in England and Ireland and other Countries,, in Florida. Riverside county just passed an Ordinance, Number 921 requiring that they be sterilized. I and others just want them off our Public Beaches neutered, and carrying Liability Insurance of $1,000,000 for wrongful Death payments for the animals ---and children they kill. Their owners can still keep them....trapped in their squalid backyards which I'm sure they love......still read them a bedtime story and give them their goodnite kiss...we don't care. As long as we don't have to see them and be threatened by them at our Beaches and in our Public Places where our children play, like Dolphin Park. Can you understand this Preacher. Listen everyone to Preacher Bilbray because the whole world is wrong except him.
caesarina keri January 24, 2014 at 12:44 PM
Pitbulls are not dogs; they are genetically-engineered, artificially bred Killers. They are bred from the Rat Terrier and the American and British Bulldogs to force the relentless killing instincts of Rat Terriers into bigger dogs who will seek bigger prey. That's all. And as the guy stated above, people get them to "march around and be bad-ass" threatening us all. Bringing these large dogs to Public Beach only teases the animal. He thinks his owner is offering him a Smorgasbord of dogs to attack..but then he's confused because the owner is keeping him on a leash. So he's ready to attack and so frustrated that he's being teased by being kept from doing it. And most owners who bring these dogs on our beaches cannot control them and intend to let them loose anyway farther down the beach. But it is not a beach dedicated to large dogs...killers like Rots, Pits, Shepherds and Dobbies. If we could isolate a beach for just these dogs without their going into the Public Domain that would be great and they'd really enjoy being let loose to kill each other. I'm for that. Just keep them away from us, our small dogs and our children.
Libi Uremovic January 24, 2014 at 12:51 PM
i didn't look at who was doing the petition...it is an irony that this is the same person that has gotten thousands of dollars in tickets from the city for having her dogs off the leases .... it doesn't change my position on an insurance requirement for dogs, but it does effect the story .... there's a difference between a dog being attacked and two dogs getting into a fight ... just because the dog lost the fight doesn't make it a victim... the insurance company is nuts to pay her off - they need to forget about public opinion and look at the whole story...
Libi Uremovic January 24, 2014 at 12:54 PM
i saw a dog attack on the beach a couple years ago...it wasn't a pit - it was a german shepard type dog ... the german shepard was owned by an old couple and the cute little dog was owned by a 'gansta' guy......
caesarina keri January 24, 2014 at 01:04 PM
LiIbi, you're right; German shepherds are Number 4 on the List of Most Dangerous Dogs, bred to kill by the Germans in the last war and used by us during the Civil rights Riots of the sixties. I see them here, straining at their leashes on the beach. And their owners know they're dangerous. I've talked to them. They just prefer this dog for some bizarre reason.....I just want them off of our Public Beaches and carrying Liability Insurance that's all.
caesarina keri January 24, 2014 at 01:06 PM
Preacher Bilbray, Do you hear your Congregation crying out to you to do something because we're attacked, bitten, threatened by Pitbulls here in Imperial Beach. Do you think you might summon the Courage to actually DO SOMETHING or are you still too overly burdened with your initiatives to remove the cracks from the IB Sidewalks??
Libi Uremovic January 24, 2014 at 01:24 PM
number 1 on the list of 'most dangerous animals' is the human....
Don Chaffins January 24, 2014 at 02:56 PM
Certainly, this is a tragedy but as Bilbray correctly stated, it's not good government to start targeting specific breeds of dogs to ban from anywhere. Yes, there are irresponsible dog owners that need to have justice served on them, but let's not go hog wild with banning stuff. I find it curious that the family was offered $100,000 as a settlement and the woman says she will seek legal advice before accepting. Surely Ms. Kelly isn't contemplating a get-rich-quick kind of thing out of this.
caesarina keri January 24, 2014 at 09:50 PM
Jane Brown, Thank you. I admire you and what you said about people like Bilbray voting to Bomb entire Nations with less stats and data info than we have on Pitbull maulings and attacks. We condemned Iraq to deformed children for ages with out dt 9 detonated and undetonated Uranium). But this Bilbray is Pat Bilbray, Jane, he's the son of his father, Brian.
caesarina keri January 24, 2014 at 10:02 PM
Mr Chaffins, Allow me to make one thing clear for the millionth time. I was NEVER offered ANY MONEY. The news picked up on that because I told them that the owner's Insurance Company called me and discussed some figures. Second, I NEVER CALLED ANY NEWSPAPER OR NEWS STATION; they called me. Somebody read the IB Patch and pursued it. And they are still contacting me. I am using them just as they are using me; I hope they can assist in helping to get this Dangerous Dog situation remedied so people with whom I talk daily like me can go freely and safely to our Beach again. Lastly, who are you to tell me or anyone that certain Breeds of Dogs should not be banned from certain Public Places where they routinely wreak havoc on IB Citizens. If you don't like the targeting of specific breeds then take it up with the CDC and the AVMA who publish bi-annual stats on fatalities in the US and the Dogs responsible for them. You can easily find a list of their Top Ten Most Dangerous Dogs if you look it up. And Pitbulls are NUMERO UNO on the list and called the natural-born killers. Pitbulls aren't even dogs; they are genetically engineered killers and only used to fight and tear up other animals. So quit lecturing me and go find out for yourself about these Dangerous Animals as I did. And if you don't like it that my daughter and I are going to recover damages for this horrific experience then why don't you walk up to a Pitbull and find out yourself.
Mark January 25, 2014 at 07:20 AM
All dogs bite. Many dog owners are not responsible. Liability insurance would be to pay for medical care for the human or other animal that was injured. It becomes a civil action with a little bit of depth. I am sure the insurance actuaries have figured out what a minimum dollar level needs to be. Let the insurance companies do their jobs and offer that. It is a state law for insurance to be on every car. The suggestion of making it the same thing for every dog is reasonable. As you ensure your dog the insurance company will figure out how much to charge you, and it will be breed-based. The only people who are going to complain about this are the dangerous breed dog owners. I tried to do a search on which states limit breed-based insurance, and was not able to find any. In truth all the insurance will do is force any renters to have insurance. Homeowners already have coverage through their homeowners insurance. It is a fair and reasonable action.
caesarina keri January 25, 2014 at 01:17 PM
Thanx Mark, Yes, what you said is all I rally wanted to say....of course I do go a little farther requiring the 4 Top Ten Dangerous Breeds off the Beach and the Children's Park because I believe that if they are allowed in these places you're just asking for trouble. There was in fact a Pitbull owner who had Insurance for her dog and who volunteered to sign the Petition. I'm only trying to make our City we love a better City and I'm sorry if I've offended anyone; that was not my intent. This is my last post here and I thank you all for your encouraging comments and please remember that this will be your last chance to change some Dog Laws here in IB; because no one will sustain the fight that I have done for this cause. Please continue to insist that the Laws be changed and ask for a Council Meeting to hear this out if need be. God Bless you all...even the ones who hate me and who have responded negatively, I wish you the best.
IBREM January 26, 2014 at 12:04 AM
I know how you feel...a "puppy" pit bull terrier was loose in my neighborhood, came in my yard came up on my desk and attached my Australian-Poodle mix and took a big chunk of air out of his back. I am now very leary about this breed of dog. You hear to many times of incidences with pit bull terriers...
Marina Andriola January 26, 2014 at 01:49 AM
"I Will fight anything that tries to target a specific breed by making it harder to license there dog in the city. All it will do is deter people from registering there dog with the city!" In this councilman's poorly written quote, the word THERE should be spelled THEIR. A shocking amount of typos followed in the comments after. Apparently, grammar police are needed in IB, too. Bow wow.
Libi Uremovic January 26, 2014 at 04:20 AM
in san diego huskies are also on the list of dangerous dogs .... if cassi is successful in getting 'dangerous dogs' banned from the beach the ban will probably include huskies - which are her other two dogs... if we're going to ban the top 4 most dangerous breeds - we might as well ban the top 5 and include huskies.... how's that banning of dog breeds sound now..???
ronshort2 January 26, 2014 at 04:59 PM
A lot of these problems would be eliminated at the beach, if everyone would follow the posted "leash laws", and if they were enforced by the authorities, that are currently in the books of the I.B. municipal codes.
IBREM January 26, 2014 at 07:25 PM
It all comes down to keeping your dog under control...
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