PALM ave. master plan ! MORE TRAFFIC

If you saw the Mayors state of the re-election speech, you would have seen the drawings of the New Palm avenue Master Plan. Just so everyone is up to speed it has 2 lanes in each direction (instead of three) with a frontage lane type bike path. So the traffic that you enjoy now, will last at least 1/3 longer. Check the facts. If you enjoy traffic you should definitely enjoy the new worse traffic.
ibsandyshores January 27, 2014 at 10:32 PM
Looked at the plans on the city website. There are still three lanes - the frontage lane is for cars AND bicycles. Let the people that want to whiz through IB without stopping or shopping use the thru lanes. The frontage lane should help local businesses on Palm and I'm all for helping them get more customers.
Libi Uremovic January 28, 2014 at 08:09 AM
if the city wants to do infrastructure work they need to acquire the funds through a property tax increase, not taking it out of the general fund .... let them put it on the ballot and let the people vote to pay for the construction instead of using the money that should go to kids' programs....
Ed Kravitz January 28, 2014 at 06:19 PM
When were there publicized public hearings? Is this a done deal. I though SR75 was a state highway. Did Caltrans hold any hearings or the city? It's going to look just like Lemon Grove. I challenge the city to publish workshops dates prior to the meetings in the excuse for an adjudicated newspaper that won't publish council agendas prior to meetings for 16 years! I challenge the city to actually have a hearing and take public input without STAFF-CONSULTANTS or RINGERS dominating the entire affair. How can this be a result of transparent process when we are just getting first wind of it now....and supposedly they already have all the approvals already? Another great sneaky project brought to you by the same people who brought you "TRAFFIC CALMING", "SMART GROWTH" and now this OXYMORON. How about a public report on how this project originated? From some SANDAG designer who has to justify his 6 figure salary by copying Lemon Grove. Seems like a lot of old politicians just move away after they screw things up. This one will last forever....so WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE? CERTAINLY THERE HAS NOT BEEN BROAD PUBLIC OUTREACH ON THIS FIASCO EITHER....NOT YET !
Pop Quiz January 28, 2014 at 07:29 PM
I am just repeating what i saw in the pictures. Ask the Mayor
Pop Quiz January 28, 2014 at 08:21 PM
Hello Sandy, I drive on Palm avenue. My perception is the traffic is very, very bad in the afternoon. Do you agree? Where does all that traffic go that wants to pass through town when we cut the lanes down by one third? I think all those cars must just sit there idling. All the Sailors, Marines and civilians will still have to get to work right? What percentage of traffic will need to stop and shop on the frontage roads? If it is less than one third, traffic must increase with the lane reduction. Simple math but it I think you could understand my point. Traffic will increase. Air pollution will increase. Quality of lives will diminish. Is there some other information i am not getting? I think there is a whole bunch of information people don't get here in IB. Do You feel this city has done a good job of informing its citizenry about this major change to their main street? ,If you think this council and Mayor have done a good of informing the citizens, can i ask how you were informed? Although I disagree with you opinion, you seem to have much information many residents do not. Maybe we are uninformed. Maybe a secretive city council is not the way to go? Maybe open government is best? Maybe? Maybe some effort should be made to inform the residents? I do believe a huge majority of the residents would think that this is a very bad idea. I think that is the reasons for the ongoing secrecy. There seems to be a bunker mentality at city hall. Your either part of the inner circle or you are the enemy. Please have a great day, and ask around. I know i learn a lot more from the people i disagree with than when i preach to the choir.
Pop Quiz January 28, 2014 at 08:23 PM
Libi about 400K is coming from SANDAG for the Palm avenue lane reductions. I am hoping Cal Trans will stop it. It is after all Highway
Erika Lowery January 28, 2014 at 08:52 PM
All the traffic will be down IB Blvd now. I already have Xavier's therapy team take that route. Currently it saves them about 9 minutes. It will make a quasi-residential area, with more schools, a higher traffic zone. Smart....
Ed Kravitz January 28, 2014 at 09:30 PM
I tried to post the link to the city's website unsuccessfully ...Check out the simulations to se what it will look like. I can't believe they were able to get Caltrans to approve this and managed to do it all without anyone knowing. I guess you can thank the Eagle Times and Union Tribune for doing their usual job of not informing the public or mis-informing the public. This can of worms needs to be opened before they break ground . See you all Feb 5th at the Council Meeting for Public Comments. 6:00 PM sharp or a little earlier.
Pop Quiz January 28, 2014 at 09:45 PM
The Power Point did not work for me. It that the current standard for public information and input? Hear a rumor and track down a PowerPoint file ? So the fact that 26,000 people don't know about it is not very surprising. Is it ? 20 of us do. So that is an improvement.This is Bizzaro world.....


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